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Hey evildoers, where do I sign up?


...fear can be used by unscrupulous leaders as a potent tool to manipulate a gullible population and to concentrate power. '
By Citizen Correspondent John Hatch
Date Posted: 04/17/08
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This is what happens when a nation loses its mind.

We don’t do torture. – George W. Bush

You’re either with us or you’re with the evildoers. – George W. Bush

Hey evildoers, where do I sign up? – John S. Hatch

The Power of Nightmares is a compelling BBC documentary written and produced by Adam Curtis. As powerful as it is, it contains some footage that I wish I hadn’t seen, as it was truly nightmarish itself. Nine or 10 men are bound with their arms above their heads against a prison wall. Then they are savagely whipped.

They scream as bloody wounds are opened on their backs. At the end of it their backs are smeared by their tormentors with animal fat (I naively thought it was water) and then are shoved into cells to which ravenous attack dogs are introduced, presumably to eat them alive. In the film we are spared viewing this spectacle, but we can hear their horrible screams. This was Nasser’s Egypt.

There is no reason to believe anything is different under Mubarak. (Both good friends of America.) When Nasser was asked if torture took place in Egypt under his regime, he very coolly denied that any such thing would be tolerated. He appeared irritated at the question. The nerve to even ask!

It was the same with the Shah of Iran. ‘Of course we don’t torture people,’ he said, ‘we don’t have to.’ Of course Mr. Pahlavi was lying through his teeth, and his torture methods were taught to the feared and loathsome Savak secret police by America itself.

The central premise of The Power of Nightmares is that fear can be used by unscrupulous leaders as a potent tool to manipulate a gullible population and to concentrate power. Fear can command consent like nothing else.


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Re: Idiot Nation

By Benny the Rat, May 7, 2008 at 11:35

I try to speak only from my own experiences in life. The majority of the education I trust comes from on the job training in life. After I became 75 and had, had a brain tumor benign, then prostrate cancer with all the nine yards the medical profession had to offer plus losing my job with American Airlines when I was fifty because I said I was Charles A. Lindbergh, Jr. and was raised by the family who kidnapped me. I felt like an idiot for trusting the system. I must be an idiot living in an IDOIT NATION. After all of the above I have seen enough in life to be satisfied in the end I’ll be laughing and say I wouldn’t change a thing.

Re: Idiot Nation

By johnhatch, May 7, 2008 at 11:33

Bud, thanks for your kind words and eloquent contribution.

Re: Idiot Nation

By Bud Oracle (not verified), May 7, 2008 at 09:03

“Fear can command consent like nothing else. In the end, as we have witnessed, it would seem that nothing is more powerful than people’s need for perceived security, even if it is false.”

So true! Has anyone gone beyond the chronicling of doom laden facts clearly evident as they happened by non idiots? WHY THE IDIOT NATION? Why are so many of this great heard of humanity not aware? Are our schools systems turning out idiots? Or does it have something to do with such factors? http://www.orato.com/health-science/2008/05/06/new-study-breast-milk-may...

Have we truly consider all the compounding effects of environmental pollutants, such as mercury, lead and many other neurotoxins?

“‘Surrender monkeys,’ some of you call them. But I seem to recall a vigorous and brave resistance movement involving men and women willing to put their lives on the line to counter the brutal Nazis onslaught….”

I’ve actually had a couple of painters, reminiscent of the “Trailer Park Boys” try to argue with me in 2002 while I lived in Cranbrook, that he USA won the Vietnam war. We’ve had media conservatives like Anne Coulter state falsehoods/errors with conviction. Are we really as smart/advanced as we think we are as a species?
“How is it so easy to devolve from Christianity to snarling dogs and sodomy committed against young imprisoned boys, to massacres and murders, the use of white phosphorous and depleted uranium”

John, you must never have taken Psych 101. Don’t you remember that experiment where they asked volunteers to “adjust” the electricity levels to the point where they went beyond where they had been told death would occur? Most humans will do what they are told. Today in Canada and the USA they are trained in schools to be tax slaves for military machines, not to think independently. Our children are encouraged to believe by our Prime Minister.

“How do you jump from bible thumping Jesus rhetoric to wicked cruelty and carnage in the blink of an eye, unless you never really believed in anything to begin with?”
John, this is obvious, through the magic of belief and marketing, of course, makes this all happen. Believers are trained to believe: http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/vancouver-bc/TTHAE72HT8ABGRGJM

“the religious nuts“

John, this is the lateral transposition I come up with, as a writer I can put myself anywhere and ask any question, right?

When Mohammed Atta saw his reflection approaching in the glass of the glass of the World Trade Tower, his last words weren’t, “Pass me the joint my friend.” No, I would stake my life on the words conveying this thought in his own language/perception, were these, “Praise God!”

It is religion that will be the end of our civilization, guaranteed, not drugs! The seed for self control is planted with all breeding populations, could it belief in God for humans? No matter how much we rail against it, we are part of nature and the sooner we recognize it, the better. God is only a figment of our mind, put their so that we might be controlled through fear.

Nice read John, it covered all my sentiments concisely, and passionately.

Re: Idiot Nation

By johnhatch, April 18, 2008 at 14:26

Thank you, Paul.

Re: Idiot Nation

By Benny the Rat, April 18, 2008 at 11:37

The reason for wars, torture and killing is millions of crazed and hypnotized individuals traveling in locked step with their Lord and Master to the nearest church, synagogue, temple, or mosque for their indoctrination on what to think, say, do, and hate and kill.
This suicidal pack started in the Middle East as a Gift from the Gods in Ancient Egypt. Where will it die?

Re: Idiot Nation

By Paul Sullivan, April 18, 2008 at 09:02

John, your reflections get me right in the heart. Most eloquent and sad.

Paul Sullivan,
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